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The Last Temptation of Christ [Aug. 25th, 2012|01:39 am]
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Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert, where he was tempted by the Devil. After various lesser trials and temptations, the Devil led Jesus to the top of an exceedingly high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world. And they stood there together, gazing upon the vista below.

"Behold," said Satan, mostly to break the awkward silence. "all the kingdoms of the world."

"They're very nice," said Jesus.

Satan's features - still faintly angelic - formed into a pout. "Really?" he asked. "Because I worked so hard corrupting them and turning them against one another, and..."

"No," said Jesus. "Not like that. I was just trying to be polite, really. They're teeming with sin and abomination."

Satan beamed. Some more awkward silence.

"So," said Jesus. "Is this the point at which you offer me lordship over all these kingdoms, if I only I bow down and worship you?"

"Nah," said Satan. "Like I said, they're kind of crappy. I'm here to tempt you, not insult you. I was planning something more interesting."

He waved his hand over the panorama, and it expanded in a hard-to-describe way. The three-dimensional view became four-dimensional; the vista became a manifold.

"Behold," said Satan again, "all the kingdoms of the world. Now and forever. Before you, the entire scope of history."

Jesus hesitated, not really sure what the polite response would be.

"You could at least smile!" said Satan. "Look! These people love you!"

Sure enough, it was true. Many of the kingdoms before them were Christian, building great cathedrals and writing beautiful works of theology in Jesus' name. Among the remainder, many were Muslim, revering him as one of the greatest of prophets.

"It's pretty encouraging," Jesus agreed. "So what's the catch?"

"Always the catch with you people," said Satan. "Well, if you insist. Take a look particularly at the psychiatric hospitals."

Jesus gazed through the manifold, where ten thousand psychiatric hospitals presented themselves simultaneously to his elevated senses.

"As you notice," said Satan "your popularity has had some fascinating side effects. In particular, a pretty good proportion of psychotics, sometime in their illness, think that they're you. I don't think either of us wants to sit here counting them all, but could we agree on a hundred thousand as a conservative estimate?"

"A hundred thousand psychotics who believe themselves to be Jesus Christ, across the entire scope of world history," agreed Jesus. "Sounds reasonable."

"And it's a pretty strong delusion," the Devil went on. "They'd dismiss the contention that they're not you with barely a second thought. Whatever their reasoning processes are, they seem to be bent in on themselves somehow so that they always affirm the conclusion."

"It's very sad," Jesus said. "I hope my Father in Heaven will have mercy upon them."

"That's not what we're here to talk about," said the Devil. "What I'm really interested in is this - given a randomly chosen person who's absolutely certain he's Jesus, what's the probability that he is, in fact, Jesus?"

"Well," Jesus answered "There are a hundred thousand psychotics who believe themselves to be Jesus, and only one real Jesus. So by Bayes' Theorem, we calculate that believing one's self to be Jesus gives one only about a one in one hundred thousand chance that one is actually Jesus."

"Your reasoning is impeccable," said Satan. "So, what is the probability that you're actually Jesus?"

"What?" asked Jesus.

"You are an individual with a certain amount of evidence that you are Jesus. Specifically, you believe yourself to be him. You have various experiences which your reason tells you are consistent with being Jesus, like memories of your mother Mary and so on, but these seem like the sort of thing a damaged intellect could create to support a delusion. You previously determined that a randomly selected person with the belief that he is Jesus has a 1/100,000 chance of being Jesus and a 99,999/100,000 chance of being a psychotic. So, Mr. Person With The Belief That He Is Jesus, do you think those numbers apply to you?"

Jesus thought for a moment. "I'm not a psychotic," he said. "I think I would know if I were psychotic. I'd have all sorts of symptoms. Hallucinations. Confusion."

"You know what the number one hallucination reported by psychotic patients is?" Satan asked.

Jesus thought for a moment. "What?"

"The Devil," said the Devil.

"Oh, that's just unfair," Jesus told him.

"Usually they report he's trying to tempt them to do self-destructive things. You know, like jump off tall buildings. Remind me what we were doing earlier today?"

"You set that up to confuse me," said Jesus.

"And you mentioned confusion. Tell me, where are we right now?"

"An exceedingly high mountain," Jesus answered.

"Which one, exactly? Because the tallest mountain in Israel is a bit under four thousand feet. That's hardly see-all-the-kingdoms-of-the-world height. Are you even sure what country we're in right now? And, uh, last time I checked I'm almost certain the world was a sphere. So what particular mountain do you think we're on that allows us to see all the kingdoms of the world?"

"Uh, well, there are no kingdoms in the Western Hemisphere at this point in history..." suggested Jesus.

"Wrong!" said Satan. "Zapotecs and Mochica! You don't know where you are, you don't know how you got here, and you don't know how you're seeing what you're seeing."

"You took me here," Jesus countered. "I assume you used some sort of devil-magic or something. I didn't watch where we were going."

"Oh please," said Satan. "Outside View! In general, when someone says the only reason they don't know what country they're in is because the Devil is magically clouding their mind, does that make them more or less likely to be mentally ill?"

"Mrhghn," grumbled Jesus.

"So let's recap. You believe yourself to be Jesus. You admit that you have been seeing the Devil, and that he commands you to jump off buildings, a command you resist only with great difficulty. You don't know where you are or how you got there, and your only weak explanation is that malevolent demons magically transported you there and meddled with your mind so you don't remember it. Using the Outside View, what is the probability that you are even remotely sane?"

"Look," said Jesus. "Could you just tell me what the temptation is already?"

Satan waved his hand, and a syringe materialized within it. "5 mg haloperidol, IM" he told him.

Jesus looked at the Devil. He looked at the syringe. He looked at All The Kingdoms Of The World. He looked back at the Devil. His brow furrowed in thought. He looked at the syringe again.

Then his eyes shone as the Holy Spirit flowed through him. His indecision vanished. "Your lies have no power over me, demon," he told his tormentor.

"Please calm down," said Satan, only now he spoke with the voice of a middle-aged woman. "We're just trying to help you, Mr. Anderson. Please just hold still and let me give you your medication."

"Get thee behind me, Satan!" shouted the Christ, and he pushed the Devil off the mountain. Satan screamed as he plummeted, screamed with a woman's voice, until he vanished from sight in the depths below.

[User Picture]From: squid314
2012-08-25 03:51 pm (UTC)
I guess the question is exactly how flawed Jesus can expect his reasoning to be. "I remember living in ancient Galilee and nowhere else, therefore I am definitely real!Jesus" seems like a knockdown argument, but "I saw a yellow car, therefore I am definitely real!Jesus" seems like a knockdown argument to schizophrenics. If Jesus really worries he is schizophrenic, he has to at least consider the possibility that his unbroken memories of Galilee are actually a terrible argument which only appears reasonable to a fractured mind - although I agree that (no pun intended) that way madness lies.

Also, episodes that didn't make the story but should be included in the Director's Cut:

Devil: Tell me, Jesus, exactly where did you spend the thirty years of your life between being born and right now?
Jesus: ...

Devil: Tell me, Jesus, did you drive the moneychangers from the Temple as a young boy? Or does that event still lie in your future?
Jesus: ...

Removed because although these questions puzzle me as the author, assuming that Jesus only knows what's in the Bible, or gets confused by Biblical contradictions, is assuming the conclusion that he's making it up. I do wonder what he'd say, though.
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[User Picture]From: ashley_y
2012-08-25 05:33 pm (UTC)
So Jesus says, I believe these:

P1. There are thousands of people who believe they are Jesus but are not, therefore on the strength of believing I am Jesus alone, I am unlikely to be Jesus.

P2. I remember growing up in Nazareth, therefore I am certainly Jesus.

And the Devil says, perhaps you are so insane that P2 merely seems like a good argument to you, but is in fact not?

And Jesus says, if I am so irrational that I cannot credit P2, then I cannot credit P1 either. And then all beliefs are equally rational.
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From: siodine
2012-08-25 05:52 pm (UTC)
The aliens just want you to believe that being irrational means you can't credit P1. All beliefs are not equally rational because the one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater says so, and he should know.
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[User Picture]From: ashley_y
2012-08-25 05:59 pm (UTC)
That's also true.
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From: siodine
2012-08-25 06:00 pm (UTC)
No it isn't because magenta. (And who are you to say magenta isn't one of the *real* axioms of logic? A reptilian?)

Edited at 2012-08-25 06:04 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: ashley_y
2012-08-25 06:21 pm (UTC)
That's true too, being obviously complete rubbish.
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From: siodine
2012-08-25 07:05 pm (UTC)
Paraconsistent logic is wrong because magenta.

(Imagine an axiomatic system of a specific kind of reasong for circles (circle-reasoning). The system isn't self-consistent, it obviously builds on our innate perceptions of reality, reasoning and so on. Circle-reasoning is like math, but for instructive purposes math doesn't have within it circle-reasoning, and we as humans don't innately possess circle-reasoning.

Now imagine what cartesian doubt of circle-reasoning would look like. You shouldn't be able to. If you're thinking things like "well, without circle-reasoning all circles would be triangles" then you're still using circle-reasoning.

Cartesian doubt of reasoning (period) implies something much, much stranger.)
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From: siodine
2012-08-25 05:48 pm (UTC)
This would seem to fuck subjunctive possibility in the ass; 2+2=5 because the CIA has conspired to confuse our mathematical reasoning in order to prevent us from speaking to the sky gods. Occam's razor is a reptilian plot to keep us from allying with the pink unicorns. "I think therefore I exist" is a papal conspiracy to prevent us from worshiping the true god Satan -- bananas are phallic therefore we don't exist therefore Satan.

With enough status in the academic philosophical community, I think I could have a lot of fun as a troll.

Edited at 2012-08-25 05:56 pm (UTC)
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